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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2023, 08:14:50 AM »
Good read.  It also talked about influence from "environmental groups" and pressure through the Geological Survey Office from Bozeman MT, in the influence of not feeding game animals.

"Within the Wyoming Game and Fish Department there is a segment of employees that are vehemently and philosophically opposed to feeding big game under any situation.

They have gathered support from some environmental groups and the Geological Survey in Bozeman, Montana.  Department administrators have allowed these individuals free rein to promote their cause and has reached the point that much of the public and other department employees actually believe the non-native food sources does more harm than good."


Enviros and their ilk gaining access into Game Departments anywhere they can.

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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2023, 08:50:19 AM »
Great article, always wondered how they determined feeding Deer was bad, people have been doing it for years and they do just fine.
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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2023, 09:43:39 AM »
Great article, always wondered how they determined feeding Deer was bad, people have been doing it for years and they do just fine.

I think it's a new trend due to the spread of CWD and how feeding deer can cause it to spread

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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2023, 11:22:05 AM »
 :tup: :tup:   nice!

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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2023, 11:51:57 AM »
Rather than acknowledge this man as being correct on the matter, they will stay the course and discredit his entire narrative.  There is zero chance any game department admits they were wrong in any way.  My experience with wdfw is their managers will argue in support of their misinformation and lies to the point of death, they will take it to the grave rather than give in.

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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2023, 12:11:06 PM »
Very good read in my opinion
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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2023, 12:18:59 PM »
Rather than acknowledge this man as being correct on the matter, they will stay the course and discredit his entire narrative.  There is zero chance any game department admits they were wrong in any way.  My experience with wdfw is their managers will argue in support of their misinformation and lies to the point of death, they will take it to the grave rather than give in.

Unless it's in regards to managing predators.  Then its protection over management.

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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2023, 12:40:24 PM »
Rather than acknowledge this man as being correct on the matter, they will stay the course and discredit his entire narrative.  There is zero chance any game department admits they were wrong in any way.  My experience with wdfw is their managers will argue in support of their misinformation and lies to the point of death, they will take it to the grave rather than give in.

The commission doesnt need to discredit his narrative, they have been able to achieve most of their goals by placing their fingers in their ears and shouting "LALALALALALA" when competent biologists begin speaking. No point in taking the risk of trying to fight against hard numbers when you can just ignore them.
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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2023, 01:10:51 PM »
Rather than acknowledge this man as being correct on the matter, they will stay the course and discredit his entire narrative.  There is zero chance any game department admits they were wrong in any way.  My experience with wdfw is their managers will argue in support of their misinformation and lies to the point of death, they will take it to the grave rather than give in.

The commission doesnt need to discredit his narrative, they have been able to achieve most of their goals by placing their fingers in their ears and shouting "LALALALALALA" when competent biologists begin speaking. No point in taking the risk of trying to fight against hard numbers when you can just ignore them.
Pretty much sums it up.👍  Man I miss having a “real game Department” in this state and not just an extension of the government and it’s anti hunting lobbyists agendas.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2023, 02:52:56 PM by bigmacc »

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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2023, 01:38:01 PM »
It's all about the money.
No need to spend money on feed.
When they make money regardless of ungulate population.
They can let it go to endangered species before they start losing enough money to care.

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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2023, 09:48:49 PM »
Less than 3800 deer survived out of a herd of 28,000?  :yike:

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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2023, 11:00:57 AM »
Less than 3800 deer survived out of a herd of 28,000?  :yike:

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That's the estimated impact based on collared animals.


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Re: Why Game And Fish Should Have Fed Deer This Winter
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2023, 02:05:00 PM »
Less than 3800 deer survived out of a herd of 28,000?  :yike:

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That's the estimated impact based on collared animals.


https://wyofile.com/whats-in-store-for-the-devastated-wyoming-range-deer-herd/

Ugh what a bummer

 


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